Good for racing?

RedBull · Good for racing?

As I'm just starting out in 1/10th TC racing, I've managed to get my hands on a Cyclone (Not the S!) and quite a few spares. I'm starting off simple, and will build up when my experience grows...

I was just wondering if the Cyclone cuts it these days for racing, or whether I should (when the time comes) aim towards something different?

sharpie

the guy that came 3rd in the electric championships runs a cyclone

RedBull

That's made me rather happy

(Although I'm aiming more towards thirty-third!)

Then working my way up!

BallisticMissile

The Latest version of the Cyclone is the Cyclone TC... take a look at a picture somewhere, and you'll see it's almost exactly the same as the original car, and all the parts are interchangeable

BigD

the car is a legend and will last a good deal longer

RedBull

Well - The car's sorted then (A bit late now, if it wasn't that good...) so it's now to look at a new ESC and motor (Figured I'll move over to the TrakPower "gold-brick" LiPo's, as and when) and also whether to change my Spektrum DX3.0 for something better or not?

BigD

spektrum 3.0 is good im mean they only imporve each modle by 0.000002 seconds so can you really tell the difference only when you forget to do the wheel nuts up

RedBull

I wondered why my steering was sloppy... I thought it might be the CVD's or something

I'll stick with my spekky for the time being (£300 can be better spent on electrics!)

Again; thanks for your help.

sharpie

i know someone who might have a LRP ESC for brushless for sale
can alway ask him if it is if you want, i believe its unused

BallisticMissile

the speed passion LPF speed control does brushed and brushless (sensored and unsensored) it has LiPo cut off etc just as the top LRP units do, as well as a Hand Held Programmer that the others dont - and it costs £90 as opposed to £160+ for the Novak/LRP alternatives

Also it may be a good idea to bear in mind that Speed Passion motors come with a warranty, so if any damage at all occurrs even as a result of personal misuse, the most you will ever pay to replace it is half the price of a new one.

RedBull

That's annoying. I spent nearly that on my LRP (And it's for brushed only!) Hmm...

Being that I doubt I'm going to be 'that' good, I'm not really going to be spending a thousand pounds doing the car up; that said, I don't really want cheap and tacky either

Sharpie - If you could ask though, it would be appreciated

Mr.B

RedBull

That's one thing - What's the enterance fee? (Adult and concession)? (Don't bring it tomorrow - I'll get it next weekend (as I'll be paid then!)

Mr.B

Entrance fee? Nothing to spectate?
As i said speak to me tomorrow.

Paul.

RedBull

Okay - Will see you tomorrow (There's a guy from the Micro forum who'll be there too, so there's a couple of people I can meet!)

RedBull

Nice to meet you all - Was a fantastic day (Weather turned out to be excellent!)

Which motor was that one again Paul, that you mentioned?

Mr.B

Novak 10.5 ss Pro.
http://www.wheelspinmodels.co.uk/...SS-10-5-Pro-Brushless-Motor__2371
Paul.

RedBull

Okay - I think I'll be having them then

I've been looking into Sorex 28 for tyres (pre-glued to wheels), with some Shimizu D01J's for wets? They good?

Also - Just for the time being, what's a good (but relatively cheap) hard-case LiPo that can be balanced from a (what I call) normal balance port? Looking at the Trakpower, I would assume I'd need to get the specific balancer to be able to plug into that funny middle port on the battery?

BallisticMissile

LiPo's worth going for include the Trakpower, - probably the 3600 would be ideal (the newer 30C version gets you up to date)

and if you are contemplating 19T/10.5 sort of motors, capacity won't be an issue

RedBull

Looking at the cars running on Sunday, the majority go for Trakpower (And understandably so!) but I really want a cheaper alternative (Just for this month, to get the vehicle going) as I won't be able to get the Trakpower balancer and charger until next month - I think I've pretty much spent out this month already (Unless someone can tell me how to balance the batteries another way, as my balance charger has the oblong white plastic sockets, not a "peg" like the Trakpower battery accepts!) If there is another way to balance them, then I'll get the 3600 version of the battery.

(Hoping I don't have to cut any holes or slots out of it to make it fit!?!?)

Mr.B

My previous experience of Trakpowers is that they dont require regular balancing,maybe every couple of months.And i know that a couple of the club members have the balancers that they would gladly let you do it at the track. It only takes 5 seconds-Literally!
Or you could go for the demon ones which do have the white plastic balancing plug.
http://demonpowerproducts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=3049
Paul.

RedBull

Ah - Superb. Thanks again for the help

BallisticMissile

to be honest, if i can make a trakpower last 7 months with only 4 balances in that time, the trakpower is clearly proven to need minimal balancing

i've even let the voltage drop to as low as 5.2v and it STILL works perfectly

I'd definitely say get a Trakpower 3600 30C, as its lower profile than the Demon, and will fit nicely under the motor mount/bulkhead of the cyclone

RedBull

Trakpower it is then!

RedBull

How much would you expect to purchase a second-hand (but hardly used) Moore Speed or Hara ed. Cyclone for?

(I'm wondering if I'm going to get this Cyclone, so looking at alternatives just in case!)

BallisticMissile

as soon as it's second hand, you take a minimum of £60-70 off the retail, regardless of how new it is, that's a general scenario

Take my TC5 for example, retails at around £290, was new, but built, so out of box etc... meant I was able to snap it up for £185

RedBull

Sweet - Thanks for that!